Jan Rutherford and Jim Vaselopulos are coaches who’ve been co-hosting The Leadership Podcast continuously since 2016, and they recently invited me to join them for Episode 393. We discussed my unexpected move to a sheep and cattle ranch after 30 years in San Francisco; my former work at Stanford, including founding The Art of Self-Coaching and teaching Interpersonal Dynamics, aka “Touchy Feely”; and the leadership challenges I see regularly in my coaching practice.
Recorded November 29, 2023. Published January 24, 2024.